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Post by Magnet Man on Jan 28, 2008 12:00:08 GMT -5
Do unto others as they would do unto you. All living organisms have a right to complete an entire life cycle. This includes vegetable life. In this repect the only moral diet is fruit and cereals
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Post by Trivium515 on Feb 4, 2008 19:55:59 GMT -5
Well for me I know I never really valued the vegetables on my plate every night until I grew them. I prepared the soil in spring, sowed the seeds, spent hours and hours in the hot sun, weeding, watering, and loosening the soil for the seedlings, month after month three times a day, and by the time they reached maturity I had become attached to them, as silly as that sounds. So when harvest time rolled around it was no easy task to kill the very things I had spent all that time nurturing. And I had NEVER appreciated a meal so much. But does this make it moral? I can’t say. I do believe that a meal, of any kind, should be a sacred ritualistic event. Not a day old burger you eat in the car on the way home.
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Post by murex on Feb 4, 2008 21:25:42 GMT -5
For the most part, I agree- but it's impossible to get all needed nutrients from just oats and fruits.
Howzabout just killing the animals and vegitables that are over middle-aged?
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Post by Magnet Man on Feb 5, 2008 14:22:01 GMT -5
For the most part, I agree- but it's impossible to get all needed nutrients from just oats and fruits. Howzabout just killing the animals and vegetables that are over middle-aged? Well at least give them one Chance to have sex and rear babies. I do not mind sacrificing my life to save another. Grace must be observed at all times. As to what is possible. It is all in the mind - or atoms if you prefer. Theresa Neumann, a Bavarian nun, lived for forty years without eating or drinking anything. She remarked once that she lived on sunlight, Fruitarians and Breatharians exist quite happily.
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Post by murex on Feb 5, 2008 19:36:43 GMT -5
I don't know the science on that. So I don't know what to say.
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Post by piper on Feb 6, 2008 11:37:06 GMT -5
Well for me I know I never really valued the vegetables on my plate every night until I grew them. I prepared the soil in spring, sowed the seeds, spent hours and hours in the hot sun, weeding, watering, and loosening the soil for the seedlings, month after month three times a day, and by the time they reached maturity I had become attached to them, as silly as that sounds. So when harvest time rolled around it was no easy task to kill the very things I had spent all that time nurturing. And I had NEVER appreciated a meal so much. But does this make it moral? I can’t say. I do believe that a meal, of any kind, should be a sacred ritualistic event. Not a day old burger you eat in the car on the way home. Hi....I have to agree with you on this. I believe the further away from this you go the further away from morality you go. My own experience is that when you feast on fast food it becomes increasingly gross. There is very little "grace" in the meal as MM put it. Even a home cooked meal with things bought at a local grocery has a better morality to it. The person preparing would tend to be conscious of what they are doing, hopefully with affection, and what they are providing for whom, I can also imagine the world we live in evolving to a place where we become fruitarians and later breatharians, as we become more en"lightened" and only need light to sustain us. Until then people should have to participate in growing and managing what they put in their mouths. Would be alot less obesity and indulgence, I think
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Post by Trivium515 on Feb 6, 2008 18:02:15 GMT -5
I can also imagine the world we live in evolving to a place where we become fruitarians and later breatharians, as we become more en"lightened" and only need light to sustain us. Until then people should have to participate in growing and managing what they put in their mouths. Would be alot less obesity and indulgence, I think Absolutely agree with you there. If food didn’t come so easily, and took work and effort of the consumer to create, than definitely there would be less obesity. MagnetMan wrote: “Theresa Neumann, a Bavarian nun, lived for forty years without eating or drinking anything. She remarked once that she lived on sunlight” It would be amazing if I were such a pure being as to never have to kill another life form, and could live purely off of the sun’s eternal rise. But then one ponders; why were we born with the organs necessary to consume? Or are we meant to evolve away from that?
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Post by Magnet Man on Feb 6, 2008 18:53:57 GMT -5
” It would be amazing if I were such a pure being as to never have to kill another life form, and could live purely off of the sun’s eternal rise. But then one ponders; why were we born with the organs necessary to consume? Or are we meant to evolve away from that? We are evolving towards a state of pure consciousness. That state is two Ages further on from the Nuclear Age. It is also the same state we began in, 20 billion years ago. In the meantime enjoy the fruits of your labor. The taste of nectar is Divine. The scent of a rose pleases the Creator. The touch of silky warm skin, exites Him. The sound of music is Heavenly. The sight of a child delights us all.
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Post by Trivium515 on Feb 7, 2008 20:25:32 GMT -5
We are evolving towards a state of pure consciousness. That state is two Ages further on from the Nuclear Age. It is also the same state we began in, 20 billion years ago. In the meantime enjoy the fruits of your labor. The taste of nectar is Divine. The scent of a rose pleases the Creator. The touch of silky warm skin, exites Him. The sound of music is Heavenly. The sight of a child delights us all. Some nice verses MM. Will do my best to acknowledge and appreciate all food that I eat, and work to grow my own. And for now I hope that that will be enough.
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Post by lavender1 on Sept 1, 2009 11:01:22 GMT -5
^yup. while marching on in deathly silence? wasn't anyone's spirit more provoked? hasn't there occurred a bit of undoing? while the mind could find ways to share?
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