Deja Vu

[TarotDragon]

Okay, the other day I had a serious case of Deja Vu. I was at work in this snack bar, making some food. There I was spreading some mayo on a piece of bread and my coworker walked up to hand me something and it hit me. I'd seen this before. I'd done this before. Now ya'll are probably thinking, and? Well, the jobs new and I'd never worked with this woman before. It was our first day together. But I'd seen this scene before. I was doing the exact same thing, the exact same time of day. It was all like just frozen in time there, where in a second, I knew I had enacted this before it had ever happened.
It lasted only a split second before the utter feeling of knowing this had happened before went away. But I've had many similar vivid feelings of deja vu and I'm left wondering, what is it?

[Trivium515]

Well if the theory that time is an illusion, and everything in the universe that has already happened is still happening and everything that is going to happen is already happening, is true, than maybe deja vu is a window into the world without the boundary of time. I know exactly what you mean, a sound, smell, feeling, sight, can make you remember the same instance seem like it has already happened even when you know that is impossible, and some times, what happens to me is it becomes a sort of pattern, like everything I do and think from that moment on is also deja vu, and it takes a shake of the head to break the string. if that makes any sense at all. ;D

[Lasher]

I think it's some kind of overlap. M-theory... 11th dimension membrane interaction.



I've had some crazy creepy deja vu experiences too. I think there are different types as well.

One, which very rarely ever happens to me, is the kind that happen in quick succsession... like something happens and then immediately following, it happens again.

Then there are the type that right after they happen you just "know" it happened before, sometime in the past... though the idea of putting your finger on any kind of exact position in time seems absolutely and utterly impossible.

I find the ones that are especially freaky are the ones that while you are experiencing them you are analyzing them, realizing it's a "deja vu". Then you begin to "remember" what happens next. Then you almost actively participate in perpetuating it for as long as possible. But the really weird thing is when it involves another person... and they also seem to be within the track with you. Because you know what they will do or say before they do it within that running context, and they do it, over and over. Then it stops suddenly... you lose the thread... you kind of reach for it and try to pull it back... but it's absolutely not there.

I get that last one a lot.. extremely disorienting.

I wonder if anyone has experienced it with another person and find, after it has run it's course, that that person was having the same sensation? Because that would be trippy.

A glitch in the Matrix.

[Trivium515]

lasher said:

But the really weird thing is when it involves another person... and they also seem to be playing along. Because you know what they will do or say before they do it within that running context, and they do it, over and over.

Yeah, exactly. *shivers*

[MagnetMan]

strictlyplatonic said:

, I knew I had enacted this before it had ever happened.
It lasted only a split second before the utter feeling of knowing this had happened before went away. But I've had many similar vivid feelings of deja vu and I'm left wondering, what is it?

The weird thing about deja vu is that what seems like happened before, actually only happens once. What is happening twice is that you are experiencing the same act in two different time frames at the same time. You have split yourself. Part of you is in the future and part in the present.

[TarotDragon]

magnetman said:

You have split yourself. Part of you is in the future and part in the present.

Dude. I don't know if my brain can handle this.

But really, how does this work? I'm never sure if I quite believe in multi dimensions, probably because I've watched too many cheesy scifi and fantasy shows. But I've heard there's ongoing scientific studies that it is actually possible. Is it true?

[MagnetMan]

strictlyplatonic said:

Dude. I don't know if my brain can handle this.

Yor brain was not designed to warp itself around that. Don't think about it. You'll blow a fuse.

But really, how does this work?

Glacier told you. Everything that has happened and ever will happen has already happened,

I'm never sure if I quite believe in multi dimensions, probably because I've watched too many cheesy scifi and fantasy shows. But I've heard there's ongoing scientific studies that it is actually possible. Is it true?

It happened to you, silly. You gotta believe yourself ;D

[Trivium515]

like Lasher said, it's a glitch in the matrix. Or maybe its especially designed to make us double take and shake us up a bit, make us wonder

[TarotDragon]

magnetman said:

Yor brain was not designed to warp itself around that. Don't think about it. You'll blow a fuse.

Nice. Really nice.

magnetman said:

Glacier told you. Everything that has happened and ever will happen has already happened,

But its the how? that gets me, you know? How is there multi dimensions, how do we tap into them?

This morning I was watching a thing on mediums, you know, the people that talk to dead people. Always fascinating, but there was this one guy who could, like travel back in time and see a memory of what happened there. He could see, sometimes in vivid detail, an event that happened. Is this once again, tapping into another dimension, a dimension of time and is that what we're doing when we have Deja Vu?

magnetman said:

It happened to you, silly. You gotta believe yourself

[MagnetMan]

strictlyplatonic said:

[But its the how? that gets me, you know? How is there multi dimensions, how do we tap into them?

Big question. Doubt we will ever know how or why deja vu happens for sure. I would say it has something to do with being in a neutral state of mind - you are not thinking of anything - just doing - your mind is hovering in the synapse between left and right brain modes of perception. One side of the brain is in the here and now, the other side is ahead or behind the present moment.

[atman]

Great subject....deja vu studies

I am interested because I had an entire day-long, continuous occurrance of Deja Vu. It wasn't every second of the day but it happening all day. Even when I got home that evening; it had diminished considerably by then, -I wondered if it would ever subside.

Glacier

"Well if the theory that time is an illusion, and everything in the universe that has already happened is still happening and everything that is going to happen is already happening, is true, than maybe deja vu is a window into the world without the boundary of time."

Awesome way of looking at it, Glacier.

Lasher

"I find the ones that are especially freaky are the ones that while you are experiencing them you are analyzing them, realizing it's a "deja vu". Then you begin to "remember" what happens next."

Yeah, that too...
I tried to sum it up like that guy that fell asleep and dreamed that he was a butterfly.
Upon waking, he wondered, "Was I dreaming I was a butterfly, or am I a butterfy dreaming that I am a man?"( -Chuang Tsu)

MagnetMan

"The weird thing about deja vu is that what seems like happened before, actually only happens once. What is happening twice is that you are experiencing the same act in two different time frames at the same time. You have split yourself."

-This seems to be the true, too, MM.

Still...Whoah!....All Day? -atman

[Lasher]

magnetman said:

The weird thing about deja vu is that what seems like happened before, actually only happens once. What is happening twice is that you are experiencing the same act in two different time frames at the same time.

I can only just barely wrap myself around that. That would be like little time-travel trips. When I was little I used to think that the telephone was like advanced magick... a device to trans-locate and time travel at the same time. You could split your consciousness and send it across the planet into the next day. Into the future or into the past... it just depended on which special number sequence you used.

atman said:

I am interested because I had an entire day-long, continuous occurrance of Deja Vu. It wasn't every second of the day but it happening all day.

Wow that must have been pretty intense. I have never had anything quite like that... You have must have started questioning your sanity after while. That's what happens to me, I know... I start wondering if I am ever really here or is every moment a series of deja vu's that you are only sometimes aware of it.

atman said:

I tried to sum it up like that guy that fell asleep and dreamed that he was a butterfly.
Upon waking, he wondered, "Was I dreaming I was a butterfly, or am I a butterfy dreaming that I am a man?"( -Chuang Tsu)

Do you think maybe dreams are a type of deja vu? Or the experience of deja vu a type of waking dream?

quicksilver said:

like Lasher said, it's a glitch in the matrix. Or maybe its especially designed to make us double take and shake us up a bit, make us wonder

Oh the torture! A tiny little nuance in your programing to make sure that you can never really be quite sure.