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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 11, 2008 11:46:45 GMT -5
[ I have residual doubt that I could ever have done enough of this, but also feel resolved in this that I feel so different about those relationships now than I did a few years ago. It was never the other person that much I know for sure. For me it is to practice now when those situations come up so that I don't fall into blaming someone else now. I am still not sure if you have unburdened yourself fully to those you have trespassed against. In the process of self-cleansing: You must do unto the self as you would do unto others.The goal is to realize that the imperfect self and the perfect self are one and the same. Yes. I feel I have been given a chance to understand and feel the pain and feelings of infants, children and disabled people, so that I can do something for them. You have said you wish yourself to be cured. You have also said that you have faith that God will do it for you. The question for both is: Why do you want to be cured? |
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Post by soulatom on Mar 12, 2008 19:33:20 GMT -5
I am still not sure if you have unburdened yourself fully to those you have trespassed against. I din't feel positive when I saw this question so I think that I need to look at this again. In the process of self-cleansing: You must do unto the self as you would do unto others.The goal is to realize that the imperfect self and the perfect self are one and the same. I didn't feel positive about this one either so going back to look at it again. Why do you want to be cured? You know I am amazed to say it but first response was " I don"t know" I have all the pat answers after thinking about it but I'm bothered that I had no response when I first read it. Ahhh thanks for digging here.... |
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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 14, 2008 10:08:36 GMT -5
I din't feel positive when I saw this question so I think that I need to look at this again. I didn't feel positive about this one either so going back to look at it again. Why do you want to be cured? What we are seeking here with all these questions - in pursuit of what makes miracle cures possble is: Right Attitude.Right attitude is seated when the soul accepts its own responsibilities for the burdens it carries in this life. When the burden is crippling, the struggle to find and retain balance is always difficult. In these cases the soul has to come to terms with an exceptionally heavy burden without holding any residual resentment about what is fair. An incurable disease may be the result of past trespass or, alternatively, the willingness to carry more of the human load than necessary. Since we began this thread with the statement that all illness is self-imposed, this is when the question of why one wants to be miraculously cured becomes truly relevant. The strength of one's answer to this question determines the next step in the process of self-realization. |
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Post by soulatom on Mar 14, 2008 23:04:27 GMT -5
I have been following through with further examination as you stated above in the thread. Before I went to bed last night just seeking sleep from the earlier storm I encountered doing this, I was blindsided again by a wave of infantile resentment. I won't go into too much detail but it caught me utterly by surprise. The result of something I perceived early in my life clearly showed me a keystone to my ego.
I just let it vomit out of me and I saw how my throughout my life I had denied life and love to every person, every relationship. to God.
I felt such sorrow that I had wasted so many precious sacred moments building this image of myself and defending it and hiding behind it and it was all ... valueless, except that it got me here to realize what I had missed. The only thing I ever wanted or needed was there all along.
For the first time in a long time I wanted to live... to give. I want to be strong again so I can give.
I am healthier today than I was yesterday that I am sure of.
Thank you for your questions...this has been a very meaningful thread for me.
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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 15, 2008 13:09:25 GMT -5
IF or the first time in a long time I wanted to live... to give. I want to be strong again so I can give. When one is very ill, whether the illness manifests in the body or in the mind, one's reason for being becomes weak. In that environment illness flourishes. It is for this reason that we train children to grow up with a mission in life. Unfortunately the mission of today is almost exclusively materialistic. Such a goal does not appeal strongly to the romantic child psyche. So we grow into adulthood largely disenchanted with life - with some - to a point where terminal illness can and does manifest. What you need now, at this point of your self-realization, is a serious life goal. Give yourself a definite mission, the harder the better. There are many worthy causes in this world that need a champion. Appoint yourself as a champion. Realize from the beginning that you will be engaged in a titanic struggle with the monster within you. It will not be vanquished easily. -There will ups and downs and times when the monster rises up and to engulf yo again. But fight on. Make the mission bigger than yourself and the monster. Determine that you are going to accomplish your mission before you die. If you can do that and hold onto the vision you have given yourself, your illness will go into remission, even disappear entirely - for it cannot flourish in a determined, focused, hope-filled environment. It will grow weaker as you grow stronger. Today's medicants are fighting illness on its own terms. They are not evoking the infinte power of the human spirit. With a mission in mind and heart, you will be forcing the illness to fight on your terms. Medicine should be only used as a supplement Any general will tell you that is the only sure path to victory. So, as you can and possibly will see, a miracle cure is not a miracle at all - simply exercising a strong will to live a good and useful life. No God will deny you that right if you are truly sincere in your endeavors. Blessings, Soul. |
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Post by soulatom on Mar 15, 2008 20:57:42 GMT -5
Your words of inspiration are medicine for the soul.
I hope that anyone reading this thread gets what I have. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I want to keep sharing with you...the truth of what you're saying rings in my ears ....
It was a tremendous moment for me when the other night it was that thing like where your " life flashes before your eyes." A wave of emotion overtook me and I felt all the lonliness of my entire life. I cried to myself how I was so alone in this illness and tired of carrying it. (pure pathetic) Usually I would let the analytical part of mind fight this but I was just too weak to care.
Then it was like the mirror I was looking at shattered before me. I looked out and there appeared the face of everyone who knows me, some who don't, even my crippled mother paralyzed in her bed and each and everyone was trying their hardest to carry me. To share my load. I was astounded at how many people it was taking and when you asked that question "Why do you want to be cured?" I didn't even know why. But the compassion I realized in that moment in my despair awoke in me the true purpose of my life. The compassion of the Almighty. The cure has already taken place, benign and harmless, the healing will follow as it is meant. Of this I am sure.
Today is a rest day for me. But the light is on and a mission to be planned. Thank you.
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Post by tabinda6 on Mar 18, 2008 11:17:46 GMT -5
"You have said you wish yourself to be cured.
You have also said that you have faith that God will do it for you.
The question for both is:
Why do you want to be cured? "
I want to be cured because it will bring an end to my pain and suffering, it will bring ease and comfort in my and my baby's life. I will be able to walk and run, and carry my baby. I wouldn't have to pay a huge amount of money to the taxi driver whom I have hired for pick and drop, to and from the office, etc.etc, etc.
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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 18, 2008 19:53:16 GMT -5
I want to be cured because it will bring an end to my pain and suffering, it will bring ease and comfort in my and my baby's life. I will be able to walk and run, and carry my baby. I wouldn't have to pay a huge amount of money to the taxi driver whom I have hired for pick and drop, to and from the office, etc.etc, etc. After a struggle since infancy, your reasons for wanting to be cured are completely understandable. One can hardly imagine how difficult you life has been. Please keep your mind and heart open as I explain the following: Every year several million incurably ill make the pilgrimage to Lourdes - almost all taking with them more or less the same reasons for a miracle cure that you have given. The question you must ask yourself: If they have the same pain and suffering and difficulties in life that you have, why are less than one in a million cured? Why should you be an exception? I am not claiming any certain knowledge. What I am suggesting, however, is that perhaps you should dig deeper into your soul and discover if more profound answer may lie waiting to be discovered. I do not believe that it is the God without that affects miracle cures - it is the God within who is the physician that heals the self, In the depths of the deepest despair, a certain strength of self-determination needs to be evoked. One needs to to be on the very end of one's tether - even willing to give up life altogether, before that original spark can be fanned back into full fire. The reason for wanting full health, has to be so complete and so meaningful and so self-less, not a single doubt about affecting the cure is left in your mind or in your heart. When that spiritual feeling is seated, when you feel that your will and the Divine Will is in harmony, the road toward full health becomes a possibility, even an inevitability. It is for these reasons, which can be difficult to fully grasp, that I suggest one appoint one's self as a champion for a worthy cause - one that lies beyond one's own personal gratification. A sense of Divine mission has a powerful evocative effect on the soul. And if the mission us difficult, then the reasons for full health make sense to both mind and heart. |
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Post by tabinda6 on Mar 19, 2008 11:21:38 GMT -5
Please keep your mind and heart open as I explain the following:
My mind and heart is wide open. Maybe you won't believe this, but I have seen the incurably ill getting cured in a flash of a second, and have been wondering for years why so few are chosen from hundreds of thousands of wailing, begging, praying human beings.
The reason for wanting full health, has to be so complete and so meaningful and so self-less, not a single doubt about affecting the cure is left in your mind or in your heart.
When that spiritual feeling is seated, when you feel that your will and the Divine Will is in harmony, the road toward full health becomes a possibility, even an inevitability.
It is for these reasons, which can be difficult to fully grasp, that I suggest one appoint one's self as a champion for a worthy cause - one that lies beyond one's own personal gratification.
A sense of Divine mission has a powerful evocative effect on the soul. And if the mission us difficult, then the reasons for full health make sense to both mind and heart.
Thank you very much for setting me towards probing my inner world. I have just read your views while I am at my office. I cannot think with full concentration here and it will take some time to dig deep, but the answer that is hitting me repeatedly, and that is springing from my heart right now is that God has selected me to be a mother. This is a divine position. Raising a daughter means raising a generation.
"Saving a human life is saving the whole humanity". This is the quote of Probhet Muhammad, and Jesus Christ has the same belief.
I sincerely feel I must do my duty of raising a good human being with full devotion and sincerity. For that I must be heeled.
I will think more on your wise views.
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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 19, 2008 13:13:06 GMT -5
[ God has selected me to be a mother. This is a divine position. Raising a daughter means raising a generation. This is true and it may well be cause enough for a miracle cure. This is also true, if in saving the life, your act puts that being in touch with its spirit. A saved life. without spirit connection is meaningless. You might further contemplate on a life mission of bringing hope and spiritual focus to children afflicted with polio. It would stand to reason that this added determination of your will, if selflessly focused on finding ways and means to help others, would generate even greater healing energy within your system. One needs to be completely fired up and filled with Divine compassion in order to drive out the negative energy that continues to cripple your full potential. God Bless. |
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Post by soulatom on Mar 19, 2008 18:55:05 GMT -5
This has been the most amazing thread and it was the one thread that I didn't want to go to. I have spent so much time reading, analyzing, dissecting my illness I was just plain sick of sickness.
But from the probing that we are doing here has finally come the answers that I had been looking for. It has been as if all the other truths I had heard finally aligned with the one truth I could not see. That the answer was within not without. As cliche as that seems I know it to be the truth. I just needed someone who kept sticking my nose in it.
For me the illness has fallen away and the light of God now shines through me. It doesn't matter how weak the instrument of my body for that light is. What I was on this earth to accomplish has happened. Now I want to heal so I can serve that light.
It was taking 20 intimate loved ones and friends to carry me let alone the grace of God with my illness and I was still limp and dying.
Today is a new day. I can carry me, that is the least that I can carry and that part of me feels strong. That fills me with awe and passion and compassion.
MM you know that I know that you know. I pray that those reading this thread hear the truth. Don't stop talking.
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Post by tabinda6 on Mar 20, 2008 10:17:31 GMT -5
This is also true, if in saving the life, your act puts that being in touch with its spirit. A saved life. without spirit connection is meaningless.
Yes, that is true. Something that I am craving for, for my baby, but at the moment I am unable do act accordingly.
You might further contemplate on a life mission of bringing hope and spiritual focus to children afflicted with polio. It would stand to reason that this added determination of your will, if selflessly focused on finding ways and means to help others, would generate even greater healing energy within your system.
I do have that purpose in my heart. I want to serve abused, neglected and challenged children.
Magnet Man, you certainly know :-)
Thank you very much for making me stop and think, rethink and keeping on thinking. I wish this thread would never end.
Dear Soul Atom, my love, prayers and thanks to youas well. Your views have added to the fuel of thought.
God Bless.
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Post by MagnetMan on Mar 20, 2008 15:03:45 GMT -5
[thank you very much for making me stop and think, rethink and keeping on thinking. I wish this thread would never end.. These discussions are very helpful when we are all on the same page. It helps both of us to feed off each other's energy. I am very glad that you are engaging with me in a positive way as we delve deeper into this fascinating subject.  My initial experience with Divine contact nearly forty years ago, left me with the feeling that God, though conscious of me as an individual and Compassionate witness to all the events in my life, was a separate Being existing outside of myself. Since then I have come to realize that a God beyond the self cannot be recognized and loved by anything less than the same seeds of God-consciousness existing within the self. What this means is that contact with God constitutes a meeting between the lesser self with the Cosmic Self. How is this meeting initiated? I have found that Hinduism has the most informed answer. It is a basic tenet of tantric Yoga practices that the God within can be contacted along many different paths, depending on the particular spiritual gifts each one of us is born with. Parents contact God through devout practice in Karma YogaAthletes contact God through devout practice in Hatha YogaLoving souls contact God through devout practice in Bhakti YogaVisionary artists contact God through devout practice in Kriya YogaIntellectuals contact God through devout practice in Jnani Yoga .If this ancient realization described in mankind's earliest Sanskrit Scriptures is indeed true, then miracle healing can be initiated by one's own effort. Discover what spiritual gift is most attractive and begin devout practice. When the Cosmic God is seen, spiritual healing is accomplished. If the spirit is healed, it will decide what is best for the body. |
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Post by soulatom on Mar 20, 2008 20:22:23 GMT -5
Thank you Tabinda, you are in my heart as well. I am glad that we are sharing on this thread. As a mother I know the love in your heart for your child. It carried me through the first years of my illness.
Everyday I come here to read this thread as the first one I want to read.
I cannot begin to describe the difference in myself from a week ago. It's funny because I went back and looked at my first posts on this topic and it was like reading someone else.
I really was on death's doorstep, I didn't care if I died anymore, I just didn't want to be here another day, and even the fear of death fell away.
Then the darkness fell away. It literally fell away and a strange calm overcame me. I was so exhausted I crawled under the covers to my bed and didn't know if I would wake the next morning. I felt the faintest signal in me wanting to though. Literally for the love of God. They say the darkest hour is before dawn and that has been true for me.
This is not to say that I am leaping over tall buildings or anything. I am inching my way along bit by bit. For me the change in my attitude is what is so amazing. My body has withstood so much damage and a week ago my spirit was there with it. I have hope for physical healing now though because my attitude has changed so radically that I believe the body can too. As we invite sickness into our heart so can we invite goodness.
Figuring out right attitude was the hard part.
Thank you again both of you for sharing with me.
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Post by Kwan Yu on Mar 21, 2008 14:01:08 GMT -5
Original Self is Goodness
daily reminder necessary
to feed the soul
Illness result of forgetfulness
of goodness within
the cry of hungry soul
The miracle is relief
of remembering
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